Updated Octopus Agile app (compare two time of use tariffs, explore full year)

With these ongoing high agile prices, I’ve been wondering if it’s time to switch to another tariff. I’ve updated the Emoncms agile app to make it easier to compare different tariffs (currently all Octopus but it would be great to add others).

It’s now possible to compare two different time of use tariffs E.g Agile vs Intelligent Go, which looks to have been a lot cheaper recently!?

It’s also possible to zoom right out to a full year:

and see the monthly results lower down on the page:

I haven’t tested the outgoing / solar mode so I’m expecting some bugs there. If anyone is using that mode on emoncms.org please let me know and I can investigate!

@Rachel @JohnSchols @Matthew_Lee @RJK @borpin @glyn.hudson

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Excellent!

The law of averages is still working and with restrictions on switching back and forth, I’m sticking. I have a feeling they will have to adjust the Intelligent Go algorithm soon. Set in 2022. Also, I don’t have that option as an Import only customer with no PV, EV, or battery.

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Of course still below Price Cap prices.

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I can;t access this - get an error . I feel I’ve seen this before and clearing the cache solved it, but that hasn;t worked this time…

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Thanks @Rachel. Hopefully fixed now, do the numbers look correct for you?

@TrystanLea do I update this on my local emoncms via the Components/App update ? stable

Thanks @JohnSchols just pushed a stable release v3.1.2, so yes, feel free to update via admin > components

@TrystanLea have updated to 3.1.2. the rate being picked up for my current tariff (intelli-var-22-10-14-A) vary between the App and my Contract, is there something I’m missing?

Is the region correct in the settings part of the app?

Here’s the list of currently supported tariffs in the app:

"AGILE-18-02-21",
"AGILE-22-07-22",
"AGILE-22-08-31",
"AGILE-23-12-06",
"AGILE-24-10-01",
"GO-VAR-22-10-14",
"INTELLI-FLUX-IMPORT-23-07-14",
"INTELLI-VAR-22-10-14",
"INTELLI-VAR-24-10-29",
"INTELLI-VAR-OEV-24-07-17",
"SNUG-24-11-07",
"COSY-22-12-08",
"FLUX-IMPORT-23-02-14"

I’d like to include E.on Next pumped: https://www.eonnext.com/tariffs/next-pumped

E.g:

But perhaps this needs to be via a custom tariff builder rather than tariff API…

any others?

Yes, hVe selected A. Assume this selection is being used by both tariffs

A tricky part of comparing TOU tariffs with past data is the different times of cheap periods, so you won’t get an accurate comparison.

That said, if another tariff seems cheaper based on mismatched periods, it most certainly will be once usage profile is adjusted for the new tariff.

I’ve just left Agile, though other tariffs are likely to go up in April…

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Agreed! that is the challenge with these comparisons!

I’ve improved the behaviour when you select a tariff that does not cover the full extent of the data, average unit rates are now calculated based only on periods with available tariff data:

There’s also helpful A / B indicator to show which tariff is cheaper:

I’ve also updated the python scripts for importing smart meter consumption data from the Octopus API, and added a script to fetch the meter serial and MPAN, see:

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I am also sticking with Agile and with the lack of generation in current electricity market, it is difficult to foresee a reduction in current high prices at least for this winter. The issue to watch is the Governments decision later year to either remain with a fixed UK electricity price or move to zonal pricing. Agile will suit a zonal pricing structure.