Serial config tool not showing new ct type

Hello, just starting to set up a new emonpi2 with 6 ct clamps. I have two problems, which may be related.

I have 3 cu units dotted around the house. Main one is connected to mains feed, then connected to 2nd and 3rd cu.

Just dealing with main cu at present.

Ct1 is for mains feed in 100amp, 200amp clamp with arrow pointing to cu
Ct2 is feed to another cu, 64a, 100a clamp, arrow pointing towards 2nd cu
Ct3 is feed to another cu, 64a, 100a clamp, arrow pointing towards 3rd cu
Ct4 is local plugs, 32a,50a clamp. Arrow towards plugs
Ct5 nof used
Ct6 is feed to heat pump, 32a,50a clamp, arrow pointing to hp

Following the instructions, i stop emonhub. The start ttyamao at 115200 and update ct clamp drop downs.

At this point it shows for 5 seconds then in blank. Try again anc press save asap and still the same. Come out of display and ho back and it shows basic 20a for all of them.

Have it set to 20a may be causing my second problem in that ct1 shows 4950 but ct2 shows 6236 as per the inputs screen

Hello Pete

Can you try sending the command r to reset the firmware configuration to default?
Configuration — OpenEnergyMonitor 0.0.1 documentation

Another option could be to try to reset the firmware by re-uploading it via the Admin > Update > Firmware:

Hopefully either or the combination of these will get the firmware back into the right state to then start the configuration again.

If you were to update the list of commands I produced for the emonPiCM to reflect your changes to the protocol and the commands, then maybe @Uk_pete_2000 could try setting the front end calibration (for this is what he’s actually doing - hence why he’s got wrong values being reported) by hand?

[But I do wish people wouldn’t call split-core current transformers “clamps”. They are NOT clamps - and in fact any “clamping”-type of stress on the core will destroy the device.]

Im not sure what you mean there @Robert.Wall, The commands listed here Configuration — OpenEnergyMonitor 0.0.1 documentation are the latest relevant commands for the emonPi2

I’ve forgotten the details now, but recently (maybe a month or two ago now) there had been a complaint about the “+++” (unlock, effectively the password) being required or not and this had caused a degree of confusion.

I hadn’t found that list - but quickly looking down it - it could be wrong: k <yy.y> <zz.z> doesn’t cater for channels 10-12 when the expansion board is present.

And if the serial input is permanently active, then “x exit, lock and continue” too is misleading - it won’t lock. It’s these small details that confuse those new to the system who might be afraid to try things because they’ll break it.

Thank you @TrystanLea i was not too sure about those commands as @Robert.Wall says us newbies are worried about bracking it.

Anyway when i started ttyamao, noticed it did a list that has all the correct settings in, even though the display still shows 20A for all 6.

I changed the displays to kwh and that does seem to have settled things down with P1 shows the highest figures etc. But when i add p2 - p6 they sometimes come out more than p1, sometimes less. Used virtual feed to get the figures

What are the raw figures i was looking at ?

@Uk_pete_2000 confused about what’s going on here, is this a recently shipped emonPi2 from us? If it was older then there might be an issue caused by an older version of the emoncms serial config software version and I’d recommend an update… Perhaps worth doing a full Emoncms update from Admin > Update and also doing a firmware update to the emonPi2 itself as mentioned above.

The configuration in the serial config interface should line up with expectations, there should be no need to use virtual feeds at this point at least.

Brand new, just delivered yesterday, so still setting it up and learning at the same time.

Okay ill search out the update etc.

Did the virtual to see what they all added up to as opposed to whats being reported in p1.

In short - you weren’t. What you’re doing with the Serial Config tool is changing the calibration in the analogue “front end” of your emonPi2 from the default values. Those are listed here: emonPi2 Install Guide — OpenEnergyMonitor 0.0.1 documentation

This happens before the numbers reach emonHub and emonCMS.

Okay cheers.

Did a full update, followed by a firmware update and that cleared the problem. Everything is being displayed and more

Could i request that these steps be added to the installation notes?

Thank you for your help

Thanks @Uk_pete_2000 you should have received an up to date SD card image and firmware pre-loaded so my apologies about this mistake. I will double check things on our end tomorrow to make sure that it’s not a wider issue

[You mean installation notes :wink:]

They are - but not where you were entitled to expect them to be! They are here, where you are making an SD card to go in your Raspberry Pi inside your emonPi: emonSD Download — OpenEnergyMonitor 0.0.1 documentation

First boot update: If connected to the internet by Ethernet (or pre-configured WiFi), a fresh emonSD will run a full system update. It’s best not to interrupt this process. Leave about 10 min before switching off or rebooting. See /var/log/emoncms/update.log if you want to view the update log to check if it’s finished.

As Trystan infers, it may just be that this process should have been done in the shop, and either it was missed or it didn’t complete properly.

@TrystanLea Maybe a note to suggest that if the emonPi appears to be updating itself,
Don’t stop it! It would be easy for someone who didn’t realise, to interrupt the process thinking it had failed, and end up in a mess.