Samsung MIM-C02N S-NET Pro Dongle

Hi Glyn.

  1. Do I recall you mentioning the MIM-C02N for ASHP monitoring (but dismissing it as not very helpful except for initial commissioning)? It’s expensive (£200 from Midsummer) but looking at the manual it looks like it might be useful to understand some of the Samsung controller algoithms.

  2. Ref Quiet Mode. Samsung sent me the following table:
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    I infer from this that this mode will reduce the compressor speed to about 60% of nameplate when the default (low-noise) option is enabled. (The other levels require access to the outdoor unit circuit board to select.)

  3. I tried Quiet Mode on DHW and it does indeed use less peak power, but it does so for longer (same number of kJ required for tank heating, so no overall power saving).

Sarah

Sorry, if I’ve caused confusion moving this to a new topic, I just thought that discussing MIM-C02N merits its own topic.

The Samsung S-Net Pro Dongle MIM-CO2N allows your to connect a Samsung heat pump to a Windows PC running Samsung S-net software.

This S-Net software shows all the diagnostic sensor info from the HP and allows the FSVs to be adjusted. It also allows the firmware of the outdoor and indoor units to be updated. Here are some screenshots:


While it’s nice to be able to see all this extra info, the logging and graphing tools on S-net are very limited compared to OpenEnergyMonitor Emoncms, although I am biased! :slight_smile:

I’ve found the MIM-CO2N is mostly useful for checking FW versions and updating FW. Also for sending data logs to Samsung technical if a unit has any issues.


In terms of monitoring the system and understanding performance, the MIM-B19N Samsung Mobus interface is more useful, EmonHub supports reading from the MIM-B19N via a modbus adaptor to get the data into Emoncms where it can be data logged and put into the Emoncms MyHeatPump graph

However, the MIM-B19N only reads data from the onboard sensors, which I’ve found to not be very accurate, for independent accurate billing grade COP calculation the Level 3 HP Monitoring Bundle is the best option.

There should be some efficiency gains since heat transfer via the coil will be more efficient at lower power, although the trade-off vs re-heat time may not be worthwhile. Here’s an excellent blog by @Zarch where he looks at the effect of lowering the power during DHW, he’s got a Vaillant Arotherm and a Mixergy, but the physics of heat transfer will be the same for Samsung!

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Thanks Glyn, useful data.

But with my winter mean total household energy consumption of 22kWh/day (about £6/day) it’s hard to justify spending much on monitoring equipment… :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

Sarah

I was wondering how you did it! have samsung tech given you any meaningful info about different firmware version behaviours?

No, apparently the UK Samsung technical don’t get to see any FW change logs themselves :roll_eyes:

I have a AE050RXYDEG-EU heat pump.

All I know is that updating my indoor controller MIME03CN (DB91-02103B) to 220614 seem to fix my pump PWM. It wasn’t modulating at all before, now it’s modulating correctly :slight_smile:

My Main Micom (DB91-02091B) is running firmware 190704, the latest firmware for this is
221130. However, without a changelog and because my HP is working well, I’m a bit hesitant to update. There’s no path to roll back without involving Samsung support. I’ll probably do it in the Spring when HP operation is less critical!

The FW files can be downloaded from https://partnerhub.samsung.com with an installer login.