Installers and Open Energy Monitoring

I’m new to this forum and slowly getting to grips with what Open Energy Monitoring offers. I currently have Home Assistant running on a home server and have plenty of integrations for my solar, batteries, various aircons, etc.

I do like what I can achieve with open energy, and I am very keen to have it added when the heat pump is installed in a few weeks’ time. But my installer (HG) has swatted me away.

Can this be installed by an end user (except the plumbing bits). If not, how detailed is Valliant’s Home Assistant integration?

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The Level 3 monitoring bundle is fully pre-provisioned, it doesn’t require any setup. It’s plug and play assuming the heat meter has been plumbed in, and the electric meter has been installed. Here’s the installation guide: https://files.openenergymonitor.org/emonhp.pdf

The Emoncms integration in part of the Home Assistant Core, you can use this to get the data into Home Assistant.

My HG installer was perfectly happy to plumb in my heat meter and its two temp probes when I had my HP installed a few months ago, and they didn’t charge me any extra for doing that. Their electrician was happy to install my Emon Pi CT to the HP circuit while he was connecting that up. Wiring these up to my emon Pi and making it all work was down to me.

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Thays great. Personally I think it’s a bit of a red flag if an installer is actively resisting independent monitoring. It’s fair enough if they want to charge a bit extra to fit the meters, but it shouldn’t take much time if fitted at the same time as the rest of the system.

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Yes, I did think that it was a bit odd. Unfortunately, having to get the heat pump installed as a sort of emergency! Will make contact again and ask them to plumb the heat meter.

As they are not used to the open energy system, please can someone provide an idiot proof guide to what needs to be plumbed in.
I’ll get an electrician to sort out the electrics.

This includes diagrams explaining where to position the two, maybe three, items that must be plumbed in: the heat meter and the temperature sensor pocket(s) - see the guide for which heat meter requires a second temperature sensor. Repeating comments I’ve read from other users here, it might also be a good idea to be able to isolate the heat meter with ball valves, to avoid draining the system should it be necessary to remove it for cleaning or some other reason.

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Perfect. Have managed to get my installer to agree to do the plumbing bits.

Order has been placed!

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Having read the forum re HPs (but not actually got one) a key issue seems to be removing air. This was recommended a while back.

But the link is now incorrect - DiSmart 22mm Swiveling Deaerator - Mr Central Heating

What size flow meter is needed for Valliant arotherm plus 10kw - DN 20 or DN25?