Defrosting not included in the total

[Ulric (Dabe)]

Hi,

While My system have defrost Emoncms - app view 4,1% in this period

The total of defrost since it’s alive isn’t counted : Emoncms - app view

but than it mean that the grand total is wrong or what am I missing ?

[Andre_K (André Kühne)]

I think all accumulated measures in the powergraph (not bargraph) view are based on downsampled data once you reach large windows and this could be due to the sampling missing the defrosts.

[Ulric (Dabe)]

If totals are build based on those downsampled data, they’re wrong.
I want to see the total kWh used for defrost during a year.

[Timbones (Tim)]

Can see these figures by adding the appropriate columns on HeatpumpMonitor.org:
(though this may be skewed if heat pump is also used for actual cooling)

https://heatpumpmonitor.org/?filter=Yvoir&hpint=1&period=all&minDays=0&rm=training,installer_name,installer_logo,hp_type,water_cop,learnmore,mid_metering&add=combined_heat_kwh,combined_cooling_kwh

Can also compare against other Vaillants:

https://heatpumpmonitor.org/?filter=Vaillant&hpint=1&rm=training,installer_name,installer_logo,hp_type,water_cop,learnmore,mid_metering&add=combined_heat_kwh,combined_cooling_kwh&chart=1&selected_yaxis=combined_cooling_kwh&selected_xaxis=combined_heat_kwh

[Ulric (Dabe)]

ok, it exisst well, good point.
Why not seeing it in the recap of the "Show defrost and other heat lost ?

@Timbones

(though this may be skewed if heat pump is also used for actual cooling)

I have the tag cooling activated to differenciate cooling from defrost

[Andre_K (André Kühne)]

Can you also see them locally?

@Ulric

Why not seeing it in the recap of the "Show defrost and other heat lost ?

The reason is that the power graph view is not intended for such huge timespans. The defrosts are lost in the downsampling. However, the accumulated defrost data is collected and stored in the daily accumulated database. It’s just not shown in the bargraph view. I’d be happy to implement that and put in a pull request, as I’m currently anyways heavily into building some features into the app.

[Andre_K (André Kühne)]

@TrystanLea, @Timbones:

It appears, the defrost energy is not separately processed in the daily processing? We have cooling, but no separation with defrost. Here’s daily_data in my browser console. Am I missing something?

combined_cooling_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_cop: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_data_length: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_elec_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_elec_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_flowT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_heat_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_heat_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_outsideT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_prc_carnot: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_returnT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_roomT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_starts: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
combined_starts_per_hour: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
cooling_cop: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
cooling_data_length: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
cooling_elec_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
cooling_elec_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
cooling_flowT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
cooling_heat_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
cooling_heat_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
cooling_outsideT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
cooling_prc_carnot: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
cooling_returnT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
cooling_roomT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
error_air: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
error_air_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
from_energy_feeds_cop: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
from_energy_feeds_elec_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
from_energy_feeds_heat_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
immersion_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
quality_elec: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
quality_flowT: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
quality_heat: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
quality_outsideT: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
quality_returnT: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
quality_roomT: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
running_cop: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
running_data_length: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
running_elec_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
running_elec_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
running_flowT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
running_heat_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
running_heat_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
running_outsideT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
running_prc_carnot: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
running_returnT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
running_roomT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
space_cop: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
space_data_length: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
space_elec_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
space_elec_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
space_flowT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
space_heat_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
space_heat_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
space_outsideT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
space_prc_carnot: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
space_returnT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
space_roomT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
unit_rate_agile: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
unit_rate_cosy: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
unit_rate_go: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
water_cop: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
water_data_length: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
water_elec_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
water_elec_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
water_flowT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
water_heat_kwh: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
water_heat_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
water_outsideT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
water_prc_carnot: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
water_returnT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
water_roomT_mean: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
weighted_cycle_count: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
weighted_elec: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
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weighted_flowT_minus_outsideT: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
weighted_flowT_minus_returnT: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
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weighted_kwh_carnot_elec: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
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weighted_kwh_elec_running: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
weighted_kwh_heat: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
weighted_kwh_heat_running: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
weighted_outsideT: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
weighted_prc_carnot: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
weighted_time_on: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]
weighted_time_total: Array(430) [ (2) […], (2) […], (2) […], … ]