# Startup & systemd - a personal view **URL:** \ **Category:** Emoncms\ **Created:** [13 March 2019 18:02 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/startup-systemd-a-personal-view/10382 "2019-03-13T18:02:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 74
**Author:** ![djh](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@djh](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/djh)\ **Post date:** [20 March 2019 18:26 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/startup-systemd-a-personal-view/10382/74 "2019-03-20T18:26:21Z")
I’ve just got some more information about log2ram to share. I’m not sure where the best place to post it is: either here or maybe [emonSD next steps - #20 by TrystanLea](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/emonsd-next-steps/10426/20) but I decided to post here. Please move it if appropriate. OK, so a couple of things: (1) I asked on the systemd list about how to configure journald to still write to persistent store even after /var/log is made volatile. See [[systemd-devel] logging in RAM and journald configuration issue](https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2019-March/042312.html) if you’re interested but TL;DR is to make another persistent directory just for journald and bind mount /var/log/journal to it (How about /var/log.journal ?) That gives us the best of both worlds and I suggest we implement it. (2) In researching the above I looked at log2ram.service and noticed its Before= line and in particular ‘apache2.service’ on that line. Does that not suggest that every service that needs to log in /var/log needs adding to that line as well? In particular redis but also other things that get mentioned frequently. That makes the whole idea a bit more fragile, so it would be nice if it wasn’t true but then if not why is apache listed there? --- _[View the full topic](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/startup-systemd-a-personal-view/10382)._