# Is HeatPumpMonitor.org data open to all? **URL:** \ **Category:** Applications\ **Tags:** data, heatpumpmonitor\ **Created:** [8 May 2024 10:54 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112 "2024-05-08T10:54:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sam\_Fornax](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/sam_fornax/32/30039_2.png) [@Sam\_Fornax](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/Sam_Fornax)\ **Post date:** [8 May 2024 10:54 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/1 "2024-05-08T10:54:11Z")
Hello! I hope this finds everyone well. I’m a new hire at my firm, and am trying to understand the UK’s heat pump ecosystem/environment. Is the data collected by OEM/emoncms open to all for usage/analytics? Thank you so much for the help, Sam ---
**Author:** ![SarahH](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/sarahh/32/27116_2.png) [@SarahH](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/SarahH)\ **Post date:** [8 May 2024 15:47 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/2 "2024-05-08T15:47:04Z")
I’m sorry to sound a bit suspicious, Sam, but is your question driven by commercial considerations? We welcome everyone who wishes to learn or share their experience, but are understandably wary of new users who might be motivated by personal gain. It would help if you could provide us with a bit more of your background and the context of your query. Best regards, Sarah (Moderator) ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Fornax](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/sam_fornax/32/30039_2.png) [@Sam\_Fornax](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/Sam_Fornax)\ **Post date:** [9 May 2024 09:48 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/3 "2024-05-09T09:48:36Z")
Sorry Sarah! I’m not super sure what you mean…I started at my company last week and have come from a totally different industry, so was just trying to learn about the heat pump world and what data is/isn’t available around the devices, home energy, etc. I guess it’s accurate to say we’re a commercial organisation! Our mission is to decarbonise home heating by getting more heat pumps into consumer homes, and I’m a bit of a data nerd so my first instinct was to generate a whole bunch of charts and analyses to understand the market and the tech! Sorry if I’ve made a faux pas!! ---
**Author:** ![Timbones](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/timbones/32/20308_2.png) [@Timbones](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/Timbones)\ **Post date:** [9 May 2024 12:28 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/4 "2024-05-09T12:28:52Z")
> [@Sam\_Fornax](#): > > Is the data collected by OEM/emoncms open to all for usage/analytics? The majority of this data is private and **not** shared, but some of it has been made publicly available at **[HeatpumpMonitor.org](http://HeatpumpMonitor.org)** specifically so people can see how well heat pumps perform in various different locations and property types. Some analysis and charts are already available via the menu in top-right corner. What aspect of the data are you most interested in? As for direct access to the underlying data, we’d have to ask @TrystanLea and @glyn.hudson. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Fornax](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/sam_fornax/32/30039_2.png) [@Sam\_Fornax](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/Sam_Fornax)\ **Post date:** [9 May 2024 12:51 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/5 "2024-05-09T12:51:17Z")
Hey Tim Thanks for your reply! I don’t know! You don’t know what you don’t know, you know? Given no restrictions I’d set up a daily grab of public data, start compiling it and see what interesting came out of it! Top of mind, it would be interesting to see how standard performance was, if there were any commonalities across the outliers, if I could get an estimate on operational costs at different energy supplier price points, if average or outlier performance across all installs was changing over time, etc etc I don’t know haha, you work in data long enough and you enjoy just answering questions. I’ve seen the charts at the site you mention, thank you for the link - they’re why I wondered if there was a feed I could tap into 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TrystanLea](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/trystanlea/32/31_2.png) [@TrystanLea](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/TrystanLea)\ **Post date:** [9 May 2024 13:20 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/6 "2024-05-09T13:20:18Z")
Hello @Sam_Fornax The table summary on HeatpumpMonitor is populated from this api: [https://heatpumpmonitor.org/system/stats/last30](https://heatpumpmonitor.org/system/stats/last30). We haven’t documented the api’s yet as we’ve been focusing our efforts on other development for now. We actually need to define the licence for the data being shared on [HeatpumpMonitor.org](http://HeatpumpMonitor.org) and we will get back to you on this shortly. From our perspective we would welcome help analysing the data but wish to see results of this analysis and associated analysis methods shared publicly as a way of giving back to contributors who have taken the time and expense to monitor their systems. ---
**Author:** ![TrystanLea](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/trystanlea/32/31_2.png) [@TrystanLea](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/TrystanLea)\ **Post date:** [9 May 2024 13:57 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/7 "2024-05-09T13:57:07Z")
PS: Thanks for asking this question @Sam_Fornax do you think you could be open about the firm that you are working for and how you would like to use the data? or how you would see this data being useful for your firm? could you contribute the findings of your analysis and methods with the community as a way of giving back here? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Fornax](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/sam_fornax/32/30039_2.png) [@Sam\_Fornax](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/Sam_Fornax)\ **Post date:** [9 May 2024 14:36 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/8 "2024-05-09T14:36:34Z")
Hey Trystan - I work for [fornax.energy](https://fornax.energy)! Honestly a lot of the motivation is just to understand how to serve the market better. That includes understanding how to help our installers visualise what a good result looks like, and ensuring that our customers get the right setup. That’s probably the first thread. The second thread is general tracking and understanding, with some of my top-of-head ideas from my post above heading the list of questions I’d love to investigate. I should stress I’ve literally only started on Monday so it’s _very_ early stages. But broadly of course I’d expect to be open and collaborative with the community. Anything sensitive that involves our commercial data would probably have to stay internal, but if we were just transforming or aggregating OEM data to understand wider trends and outliers, and that analysis was all based on this community’s data, I think it’s an extremely fair request to have it shared back with the community after it’s created! ---
**Author:** ![TrystanLea](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/trystanlea/32/31_2.png) [@TrystanLea](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/TrystanLea)\ **Post date:** [9 May 2024 15:43 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/9 "2024-05-09T15:43:05Z")
Thanks Sam > [@Sam\_Fornax](#): > > understanding how to help our installers visualise what a good result looks like, and ensuring that our customers get the right setup. That’s probably the first thread. that sounds great and exactly the kind of thing we want HeatpumpMonitor to be used for. > [@Sam\_Fornax](#): > > but if we were just transforming or aggregating OEM data to understand wider trends and outliers, and that analysis was all based on this community’s data, I think it’s an extremely fair request to have it shared back with the community after it’s created! Perfect! that’s good to hear. [HeatpumpMonitor.org](http://HeatpumpMonitor.org) is there to contribute to the public conversation and both customer and installer learning around this technology and so if you and Fornax are happy to be part of that, that’s what we are after really! ---
**Author:** ![Timbones](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/timbones/32/20308_2.png) [@Timbones](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/Timbones)\ **Post date:** [9 May 2024 22:06 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/10 "2024-05-09T22:06:12Z")
> [@TrystanLea](#): > > The table summary on HeatpumpMonitor is populated from this api: [https://heatpumpmonitor.org/system/stats/last30](https://heatpumpmonitor.org/system/stats/last30). Sam - If you want aggregate data for the whole year (i.e. for SCOP), have a look at [https://heatpumpmonitor.org/system/stats/last365](https://heatpumpmonitor.org/system/stats/last365) - however, pay attention to the `*_data_length` (seconds) and `quality_*` (%) fields and filter out systems that are incomplete. You may need to filter out outliers due to systems without MID meters or have been flagged with data errors. I’m not sure there’s feed for the system details, unless Trystan knows? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Fornax](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/sam_fornax/32/30039_2.png) [@Sam\_Fornax](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/Sam_Fornax)\ **Post date:** [10 May 2024 06:36 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/11 "2024-05-10T06:36:59Z")
Thank you Tim! That’s a big old schema - is there a data dictionary anywhere on OEM’s site to help me understand what I’m looking at? ---
**Author:** ![Timbones](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/timbones/32/20308_2.png) [@Timbones](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/Timbones)\ **Post date:** [10 May 2024 07:55 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/12 "2024-05-10T07:55:51Z")
Unfortunately not, but you should be able to figure it out from the names. Here are the main prefixes: - **space\_** is for space heating\* - **water\_** is for domestic hot water\* - **combined\_** is for both - _all systems should have this at least_ - **running\_** excludes the idle period, i.e. only when consumed power \> 100W - **quality\_** is the percentage of the time period with data \* _Note: not all systems separate out space vs. water heating._ Then there’s the metrics that are collected: - **cooling\_kwh** - energy of provided cooling, usually during **defrosts** - **cop** - Coefficient Of Performance - **data\_length** - how many seconds of between first and last reading - **elec\_kwh** - total electrical energy consumed - **elec\_mean** - average electrical power consumed (W) - **flowT\_mean** - average flow temperature (°C) - **heat\_kwh** - total heat energy produced - **heat\_mean** - average heat power produced (W) - **outsideT\_mean** - average outside temperature (°C) - **prc\_carnot** - percentage of [carnot COP](https://docs.openenergymonitor.org/heatpumps/basics.html#carnot-cop-equation) (usually around 50%) - **returnT\_mean** - average return temperature (°C) - **roomT\_mean** - average room temperature (°C) If you want data for a specific period (say 91 days from November through January) you can query `/system/stats?start=2023-11-01&end=2024-1-01` ![image](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/uploads/default/original/3X/c/1/c17c5b80af7731aef4472d11793efedb490a221d.png) ---
**Author:** ![JennyCrawley](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@JennyCrawley](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/JennyCrawley)\ **Post date:** [19 September 2024 08:54 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/13 "2024-09-19T08:54:37Z")
Hi Trystan, Have you any update on the license for using the published data? We would like to ask for permission to use it for academic research, and would also like to know the terms and conditions if these are set out just so we make sure we do everything properly. Thanks very much, Jenny ---
**Author:** ![TrystanLea](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/user_avatar/community.openenergymonitor.org/trystanlea/32/31_2.png) [@TrystanLea](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/TrystanLea)\ **Post date:** [19 September 2024 14:02 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/14 "2024-09-19T14:02:09Z")
Hello @JennyCrawley Thanks for asking, the data is licensed under [Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0) - this was discussed here for reference [HeatpumpMonitor.org open data license?](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/heatpumpmonitor-org-open-data-license/26279). I’ve updated the [HeatpumpMonitor.org](http://HeatpumpMonitor.org) about page with this just now [HeatpumpMonitor.org](https://heatpumpmonitor.org/about). Hopefully that license allows you to do what you need? ---
**Author:** ![JennyCrawley](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@JennyCrawley](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/u/JennyCrawley)\ **Post date:** [19 September 2024 16:25 UTC](https://community.openenergymonitor.org/t/is-heatpumpmonitor-org-data-open-to-all/26112/15 "2024-09-19T16:25:51Z")
That’s really helpful, thank you.