DIYBMS v4

stuart · 2021-01-13T08:16:53.325Z

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kenny · 2021-01-10T21:50:13.164Z

Well its been about 2-3 weeks now using the BMS and glad to report not many issues. I installed the modules to the sides of my 280ah LiFePO4 batteries and really the only issue I had was packet loss. Twisting the data wires from the 1st and last modules to the controller took care of the issue.

I did have programming and communication problems along the way all of which were a result of dry solder joints on the ATTINY or a header pin.

All in all very satisfied with the results. Would like to thank Stuart again for putting in the work to make this possible for all of us without the knowledge to do so on our own.

patalhetas · 2021-01-11T10:52:31.211Z

hi,
where U see that ?

voltmeter · 2021-01-11T16:02:17.878Z

DIYBMS Announcements diyBMS

Just a quick update on progress that I’m making behind the scenes. The below board is a prototype design for a new controller module using the ESP32. The board has hardware for: Two mechanical relays (5A, 60V) One 0.5A, 60V SSR relay (on board) An ATTINY/Arduino ISP programming header (so the controller can program the modules without needing PlatformIO or a computer/USBASP interface) RS485 CANBUS Four additional I/O pins Two connectors for connecting the existing modules to A colour TFT scr…

stuart · 2021-01-11T19:59:23.704Z

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stuart · 2021-01-12T14:03:48.267Z

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Michaelillingby · 2021-01-14T05:33:58.548Z

well, I had a little time on my hands today and was pondering how I was going to mount my controller.

Din rail? nah My 3d printer isn’t working.

but you know what is working, my X-Carve.

IMG_10081512×2016 982 KB

Here is my solution right off the wasteboard. I pushed a couple of nylon stand offs in the mounting holes I machined. I pocketed out a hole to perfectly fit the relay board.

IMG_10112016×1512 1010 KB

Then I attached the relay board to the Veneered MDF I machined. Now the fact that the relay board pins and mounting holes PERFECTLY align with the controller can’t be a coincidence, can it?
Anyways, perfect fit.

IMG_10143024×4032 2.86 MB

Here it is, still trying to figure out where I am going to screw it to, but for now, leaning against the pipe seems like a solid for now plan.

Michaelillingby · 2021-01-14T05:36:58.558Z

I hope that stuart doesn’t mind me using the logo for my mounting board. @stuart If you do mind, let me know, I should have asked first.

Better to seek forgiveness than permission? yes? no?

stuart · 2021-01-16T11:07:30.760Z

I like it!

stuart · 2021-01-16T11:08:29.254Z

Michaelillingby:

Now the fact that the relay board pins and mounting holes PERFECTLY align with the controller can’t be a coincidence, can it?

No its not

Tim_Yorba · 2021-01-17T05:15:23.784Z

I would like to build some of these leaf boards can you share the files? I am running 28k of leaf cells 14s8p. Has anyone built for more than 4 parallels?

Michaelillingby · 2021-01-17T07:57:29.098Z

@stuart When you mentioned that you made a custom module for both Leaf Cells, and the LTO cells, I got the impression that you would be open to making one for the 90mm holes spacing for the LiFePO4 Prismatic cells. Did I assume incorrectly?

I would gladly remake all my modules since I think that it would make for a much better install with minimized external wiring and less voltage drop.
Maybe even beefing up the balance resistors a bit for the larger cells. I have 280aH cells and the 850mA resistors don’t quite keep up if the sun is strong making lots of power.

Love to hear your thoughts.

PS, Do any of the pcb assembly shops have the attiny chips as part of their stock that you are aware of?

Thanks @stuart

atanisoft · 2021-01-17T13:29:19.312Z

A version of the diyBMS module boards for Leaf modules can be found here: GitHub - stuartpittaway/diyBMSv4Leaf: diy BMS version 4 for Nissan Leaf cells. This variant was developed by @GeorgeBoudreau. It looks like it will have around 1A discharge (8x 33ohm R in parallel) for each side.

This requires 2x ATTiny841 per PCB.

stuart · 2021-01-17T16:11:04.207Z

Michaelillingby:

When you mentioned that you made a custom module for both Leaf Cells, and the LTO cells, I got the impression that you would be open to making one for the 90mm holes spacing for the LiFePO4 Prismatic cells. Did I assume incorrectly?

Hi, as @atanisoft mentioned, I didn’t make the Leaf one - although its the same circuit, just in a different “dual” format. I’d be happy to consider other styles/sizes, although I don’t really have the time at the moment as I’m desperately trying to get the next controller released so I can move on with the current shunt monitoring.

In regards to a 90mm hole spacing, I’d probably want to take a look at the various cell sizes available on the market, so I only need to create a single PCB for the majority of cells - perhaps with dual or even triple hole spacing to accommodate the various cell types. What cells do you have?

stuart · 2021-01-17T16:12:07.261Z

Michaelillingby:

Do any of the pcb assembly shops have the attiny chips as part of their stock that you are aware of?

JLCPCB occasionally have them in stock, but they can’t be a popular device for them as they only ever seem to get 5 or 10 in stock at once!

Michaelillingby · 2021-01-18T05:53:16.044Z

Yeah that makes sense. I looked at about 20 different vendors is alibaba and the various sizes all seem to have the 90mm center to center spacing. I am guessing that it is some sort of prismatic standard for these cells.

Awesome that you would be willing to do this. When you release the new controller I am going to order it up, and hopefully these new custom modules at the same time.

Cheers @stuart

dakoal · 2021-01-18T17:04:38.263Z

JLCPCB Porn

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stuart · 2021-01-18T17:38:48.510Z

How many!!

dakoal · 2021-01-18T17:49:01.184Z

These are 120, but many more built 2020.

stuart · 2021-01-18T18:04:45.453Z

What are you doing with them??